In this episode of Seeing Them Live, Charles welcomes his daughter, Lily, to discuss her first concert: seeing Harry Styles live in Lisbon in 2023, and the stressful effort to get her first passport in time. Lily shares how she discovered Harry’s music during COVID through Fine Line and Harry’s House, while her dad recounts missing expensive United Center tickets, buying Lisbon show tickets, and navigating repeated passport denials tied to an improperly notarized form and an outdated version sent by the agency. After contacting Rep. Sean Casten, Lily’s passport shipped just in time, allowing the family to fly to Portugal just in time to catch Wet Leg’s opener and Harry’s set, including crowd moments like Bohemian Rhapsody and favorites like Matilda. They also discuss later shows, including Lollapalooza 2025 for Olivia Rodrigo with Weezer, and upcoming plans to see Harry at Madison Square Garden.
In this episode of Seeing Them Live, host Charles Zona is joined by his daughter Lily for a conversation about her journey into live music — starting from the very beginning. The episode opens with a throwback to Charles's first-ever podcast test recording, where an 11-year-old Lily had never been to a concert. From there, Lily traces her love of Harry Styles back to the COVID era, when her mom played his album Fine Line around the house. That early introduction blossomed into a full-blown fandom, and when Harry's House dropped and the tour kicked off, the family set their sights on seeing him live — not in Chicago, but in Lisbon, Portugal.
What followed was a months-long ordeal to secure Lily's passport in time for the show. After the initial application was denied due to an improperly notarized form — and then delayed a second time because the passport agency itself had sent an outdated version of the required document — the family found themselves scrambling with barely days to spare. Charles details the frantic calls to the passport agency, the last-ditch email to Illinois representative Sean Casten, and the miraculous late-night moment when Lily checked the passport status on her dad's phone and discovered it had shipped. They picked it up Monday morning and were on a flight to Portugal that afternoon, arriving just in time for the Tuesday night concert at the 60,000-capacity Passeio Marítimo de Algés.
The concert itself didn't disappoint. Lily and Charles describe the electric atmosphere, from 60,000 fans belting out Bohemian Rhapsody before the show to Harry's Alan Watts-inspired intro and the surprise appearance by Wet Leg. Lily shares her favorite moments, including an intimate acoustic performance of Matilda on the catwalk and a close encounter during Late Night Talking.
The episode wraps up with a look at Lily's growing concert resume — including Olivia Rodrigo at Lollapalooza 2025 (with a surprise Weezer cameo) and up-and-coming country artist Maddox Batson — plus the exciting news that the family has tickets to see Harry Styles again at Madison Square Garden on his upcoming Together, Together tour in support of his new album Kiss All the Time, Disco Occasionally.
BANDS: Harry Styles, Lainey Wilson, Maddox Batson, Muscadine Bloodline, Olivia Rodrigo, Queen, Weezer, Wet Leg.
VENUES: Allstate Arena, Grant Park (Lollapalooza), Madison Square Garden, Passeio Marítimo de Algés, Salt Shed, United Center.
[00:00:23] Charles: Do you wanna introduce yourself? Tell us what you do for a living, where you work.
[00:00:27] Lily: I go to school.
[00:00:28] Charles: Okay. Where at?
[00:00:29] Lily: I'm not telling you where I go to school!
[00:00:32] Charles: Today's guest is my daughter, Lily Zona. Lily, welcome to Seeing Them Live.
[00:00:38] Lily: Thanks. Hi.
[00:00:40] Charles: Yeah, that recording we just played for everybody was my first ever podcast recording, which was a test episode for one of my first assignments in this podcasting course I was taking. And at that point, I believe you were 11 years old and you had never been to a concert. So your mom and I were wondering what your first [00:01:00] concert experience would be, and eventually you saw Harry Styles live in Lisbon, Portugal.
[00:01:06] Lily: Yeah.
[00:01:07] Charles: But, the story is as much about seeing your first concert as it is about persevering and trying to get this passport that was very difficult to obtain. and we'll get into that a little bit here as well. 'Cause you needed, obviously we're in the Chicago area and you needed a passport in order to go out to Portugal to see Harry, and you'd never had a passport.
[00:01:32] So Lily, let's start talking about when you first became interested in Harry Styles music. I mean, when we did that recording, were you into him then? I know your mom kind of introduced you to him, sort of, right?
[00:01:47] Lily: Yeah, I think during COVID, 'cause she played Fine Line a lot, his second album, which kind of got me hooked onto his music.
[00:01:58] Charles: Okay. Yeah, I remember we [00:02:00] were getting dinner ready and stuff, just kinda listening to his music, and then his album came out, eventually Harry's House, and then he went on this really extensive tour right, for that album?
[00:02:13] Lily: Yeah, because, his album Fine Line, the tour for Fine Line was interrupted by COVID. So we had to cancel the tour, and then right after that he released Harry's House. So it was kind of like a double tour in a way.
[00:02:25] Charles: Okay. Yeah. And he did come around to play the United Center in Chicago, which I did try to get tickets to the show as, I don't know if you recall, but, when I was served up the tickets, at Ticketmaster, I wasn't expecting to get into this area called Johnny's Place, which the way, Harry's stage was set up, that was basically the pit, right?
[00:02:49] Lily: Yeah.
[00:02:50] Charles: So these tickets were super expensive. They were like $525 each. That did not include the TicketMaster fees at the time, which now they [00:03:00] include all the fees up front. So the total was going to be over $1,700 to get three tickets. At the time I wasn't used to paying those kind of prices for concert tickets. So I jumped outta line and I blew the whole thing off, which I, I felt bad about, 'cause I kind of panicked. , I don't know if I would've gotten different seats or what have you. So as time went on, we all listened to Harry's House like almost every day, right.
[00:03:26] Lily: Yeah.
[00:03:27] Charles: So yeah, I kind of started to feel bad about that decision that I made to not get those tickets at the United Center. So I thought, well, because of COVID, we hadn't been on a vacation in a while, and so I got this idea to go see Harry somewhere else. And he was touring Europe at the time, then. This was in late spring of 2023, which we decided to go to Lisbon, Portugal, because that seemed like the easiest place to go and see him, and we'd never been there.
[00:03:59] So, I [00:04:00] started the process, and so did your mom of getting you this passport, right? Which you guys went to the post office.
[00:04:07] Lily: Yeah, we went there a lot.
[00:04:09] Charles: You got the application for the passport and we basically sent it off. The only hitch was I had to work that day. This was a Saturday. So, I had to fill out this form, which is called a DS 3053 Form, and not to bore everybody, but that's a form that you fill out if you're not present while you're filling out this passport information at the post office to certify that you're the legal guardian of this person who's a minor in this case, and has never had a passport. And so you have to fill out this form, which I did.
[00:04:40] So, around the beginning of May, I bought the round trip tickets to Lisbon and around May 3rd, actually, on May 3rd, we get this notice that your passport has been received by the Passport agency. I also had to renew my passport and, I had sent my application in a couple weeks after [00:05:00] you did. And my passport application was received by May 15th. So, May 3rd, yours gets received. May 15th, mine gets received by the Passport Agency and on May 9th, I ordered three Harry Styles tickets off of StubHub for the concert.
[00:05:15] So, on June 15th, I receive my passport, but yours still was not received. And so, about June 21st in the afternoon, we receive this email that says your passport application has been denied. Because it was not properly notarized. And of course the whole process takes about seven to nine weeks they were saying.
[00:05:40] And we were gonna be running up close against this window of as it was. So, we basically fill out the form again, go to the bank, get the application notarized again and send it overnight back to the passport agency, which they received it, the [00:06:00] next day. So, less than 24 hours has lapsed.
[00:06:03] So, yeah, these tickets arrive from StubHub and they're basically on what's called the front pitch at this place called Passeio Marítimo de Algés. Which I know I probably butchered the pronunciation of that in Portuguese, but, it basically means the seafront promenade on the body of water called Algés.
[00:06:26] So, we get the tickets, but still no passport. So, basically from that point on, I'm checking with the passport agency pretty much every day to get the status of your passport to the extent that I would wear shirts that had pockets on the front so that I could put my phone in there and have the phone on speaker and listen to the awful music that t hey have for hold, and I, and they're open for about six hours, and I was able to get through twice in a six hour period to ask about your passport which they kept [00:07:00] saying they're working on it. They're working on it.
[00:07:02] So, as time wears on into July, then we start going into July, my wife, your mom, comes down with COVID. So, this is like July 6th and we were supposed to leave on July 12th to go to the concert, but obviously we can't leave because you don't have your passport. So I canceled the airline tickets were for July 12th, 'cause the idea was we were gonna go see Portugal, Lisbon for a week and then cap off our trip with the Harry concert, so it was gonna be like one of the very last things we did on the trip.
[00:07:33] So I had to cancel the flight, and around July 13th, we get a second letter from the passport agency. This time it was not emailed, it was sent via snail mail, which I don't understand why. And it said your application for your passport was on hold again because of the DS 3053 Form was improperly notarized.
[00:07:55] So, in a bit of a panic, because I have these tickets, I don't [00:08:00] know if we're gonna actually be able to go, I went to the library, which I would highly recommend people go to the library for your passport application. They're very helpful. They help you fill things out, and that's where I had done mine and I got mine within a few weeks actually. I talk to the librarian, I meet with her and she looks at our DS 3053 Form. This is the one the passport agency sent me, and she points out that it's an outdated form. It's the 2016 version of the form.
[00:08:32] And, my mind was kind of blown, like, how could the passport agency send me this 2016 version, which was the email attachment the first time. And then they finally, I guess, sent me the correct one via snail mail the second time. So we went to the bank again, and got it notarized and sent this form in, but time had kind of run out, right Lily?
[00:08:57] Lily: Yeah,
[00:08:57] Charles: Yeah, it was,
[00:08:58] Lily: It was really close to the day.[00:09:00]
[00:09:00] Charles: Yeah, the concert was what, July 18th, and so this was July 14th, which was a Friday. And we sent the form off, but of course, we have to leave on Monday to get to Portugal by Tuesday to see Harry that night. And so we sent this form in on the 14th. I pretty much knew that we weren't gonna get this thing turned around in time. So I put up the Harry Styles tickets for sale on StubHub to get rid of 'em.
[00:09:27] And, in the meantime, people have been telling me all along to contact my local politicians, senators, state representative and tell 'em what's going on. So I actually did that. And I sent our state representative Sean Caston an email, talking about all this stuff, the outdated form, et cetera, et cetera. And I didn't think anything would come of it. I thought it would just go into this bureaucratic black hole. But they responded to me and said they're gonna work on it. But without this form, I was not hopeful because they weren't gonna receive it till [00:10:00] Monday morning and we were gonna have to leave by then. So that Friday, Lily, you went on the Passport Agency's website, right?
[00:10:08] Lily: Yeah, it was late at night.
[00:10:10] Charles: Yeah, this was late at night. We'd gone out to dinner. We were super bummed out. We weren't gonna go see Harry. So, we, or you grab my phone and you check the status of my passport.
[00:10:22] Lily: Mm-hmm.
[00:10:23] Charles: Which of course said it, it had been shipped, which I knew. I said, yeah, I've got mine, but we want yours. So then you entered your information on the website and what happened?
[00:10:32] Lily: I saw that it said it shipped, so yeah.
[00:10:34] Charles: Yeah, and I was like, no, you must be looking at mine 'cause they weren't gonna receive this form until Monday. But then I looked at your phone and I was like, oh my God, it's shipped. So, I took down the tickets off of StubHub and it also said there was a tracking number and we tracked it and it was gonna be delivered Monday morning.
[00:10:52] So concert is Tuesday night. And so we booked the airline tickets again. Saturday morning, [00:11:00] your mom called UPS and said, we will come to the facility Monday morning and pick up the package. So don't put it on a truck. So yeah, Monday morning we got your passport and went off to Portugal mid-afternoon, from a flight from Chicago to Philadelphia, and then we went from Philadelphia to Lisbon.
[00:11:20] So, I have to believe that emailing the state representative had something to do with them releasing your passport, because at that point they did not have the new notarized form in order to process it. So I would imagine that's how it was released, I guess. We'll never know. So we get there, we're super jet lagged. It was a long trip.
[00:11:41] Lily: A long. flight.
[00:11:43] Charles: Long flight. A long month, not knowing whether or not we're gonna go see Harry. But we land in Portugal Tuesday morning, so we head off to the stadium, right? So you wanna talk about that a little bit, Lily?
[00:11:54] Lily: Sure, well we were in the hotel, and then we go to a cab or [00:12:00] Uber.
[00:12:00] Charles: Yeah, it was cab. At the hotel we were staying at, there's like a cab stand and there were lots of cabs there. So yeah, we grabbed a cab.
[00:12:06] Lily: And we take the cab and then, I don't know, maybe like a mile away from the venue. Like I see these two girls, they're one's riding a scooter or actually, no, they're both riding a scooter and they had like this pink feather boa and it was blowing in the wind and I knew they were going to the concert.
[00:12:23] And then the closer and closer we got let outta the cab. I don't know, maybe like 10 minutes away from the venue. But we saw there were a ton of people there, like walking to the venue. I remember specifically there was this guy, he was in an all silver jumpsuit. He had silver heels on, and it was all sparkly. Yeah.
[00:12:40] Charles: Yeah, 'cause there were so many people, this place holds 60,000 people. And we were, as I had mentioned before, our tickets were on what was called the front pitch. So it was like a patch of grass, fairly large. There was a rear area that was fairly large, and then the pits were up front, that Johnny's Place [00:13:00] was up there. And the stage kind of came out in the middle, out into the crowd where Harry would usually play Matilda, acoustically, I think Lily was it, was he always do that acoustic guitar, maybe?
[00:13:10] Lily: I think so he'd always go up with his band to the end of the catwalk, and his whole band would be there too.
[00:13:16] Charles: Yeah. So, the cab driver had to let us off 'cause the crowd was so huge. He said, I can't go any farther. Then let us off. And so we walked and we got there just as Wet Leg was wrapping up their set, so we heard a couple of their songs at the end of that set. And then we took some pictures. I think you bought your first concert t-shirt there.
[00:13:38] Lily: Yeah.
[00:13:39] Charles: And went to the show. So what was that like, like walking up there and walking into that, whole environment? Is that what you were expecting or how did you feel?
[00:13:48] Lily: I was kind of expecting like for it to be more like an airport, but it was actually like a very chill like environment. I remember walking up there. Wet Leg was playing and I [00:14:00] remember you got waters for me and mom. And then the show started playing, the big screen.
[00:14:07] Charles: I was gonna mention just a little bit before that, 'cause I don't know if I've ever experienced this before. You know, they play music before a band comes on. You know, there's just random songs that maybe are picked by the artist or whomever. And Bohemian Rhapsody was playing by Queen, and I would say the entire crowd were singing that song. It was nuts. Yeah, 60,000 people singing Bohemian Rhapsody. So then they stopped the music and then these little birds start chirping, right?
[00:14:38] Lily: Yeah, and these Houses start like going across the screen with like little faces. There were birds.
[00:14:44] Charles: Yeah.
[00:14:45] Lily: They had Big Ben in the Eiffel Tower up there.
[00:14:47] Charles: Yeah. It was kind of like a cartoon and the band's warming up. You can hear the horns playing and stuff, and they kind of come out on stage. You know, we'd seen pretty much every Harry [00:15:00] Styles concert on YouTube leading up to that a few hours after he was done playing, right, Lily?
[00:15:06] Lily: Yeah.
[00:15:07] Charles: There would be like either video of an entire concert shot by one person or these stitched together videos that kind of made upthe entire time.
[00:15:16] Lily: Yeah, like the highlights of the concert.
[00:15:18] Charles: Right. Yeah. So you would watch those quite a bit and we kind of knew what to expect, but being there live with 60,000 people and the energy and the crowd was really cool. And then, as the band is tuning up, they start playing these passages by this philosopher Alan Watts. It's like an audio piece. Let's give a listen.
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[00:16:26] Charles: And so, when he says, this sensation of being a lonely individual is a hallucination. And then he goes on to say, you are the big bang, the original force in the universe coming on as whoever you are. And that was a big part of Harry's message, right?
[00:16:42] Lily: Yeah, like be who you wanna be. I know at a lot of concerts he would say, be who you wanna be tonight. Like, be here in this moment, whoever you are, whoever you wanna be.
[00:16:51] Charles: Yeah, and to me the show was designed as an experience, not just a concert. You know, he is really connecting with the audience. [00:17:00] So then, after they play that intro of Alan Watts, Harry comes out and what did he open up with Lily?
[00:17:07] Lily: Living in a Daydream.
[00:17:08] Charles: Yeah. And so we're outside, we're jet lagged. It's What about 80 degrees would you say?
[00:17:15] Lily: Yeah.
[00:17:15] Charles: Beautiful out. The wind is blowing pretty significantly. It's humid.
[00:17:21] Lily: Yeah.
[00:17:21] Charles: And it's just like this awesome summer day. Because we hadn't really slept and because we were so stressed out, at least for me, I couldn't believe we were there. So, when he starts playing, Living in a Daydream, he name checks the city. So let's listen to that.
[00:17:56] Okay. So how cool was that? When he did [00:18:00] that, Lily?
[00:18:00] Lily: Yeah. T hat was pretty cool.
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[00:18:28] Charles: I literally could not believe I was standing there after everything we had been through with your passport. So, that was a great concert. And there were a couple of surprises, right? One of 'em was Wet Leg. They came out and played a couple songs with Harry, right?
[00:18:42] Lily: Yeah, they did.
[00:18:43] Charles: And, then we also got to see a preview of one of Harry's videos right before it was released.
[00:18:50] Lily: Yeah, Daylight. I think at the end of the song they did like a little clip of, if you haven't seen the music video, it's j ust Harry being shot outta a canon.
[00:18:59] Charles: [00:19:00] In like a big yellow bird suit. They showed like a few seconds of that video and people went crazy 'cause it hadn't been released yet. They it after the concert. So that was, those were some kind of cool surprises. Did you enjoy it, Lily? Was it everything you thought it was gonna be?
[00:19:18] Lily: Yeah, one of my favorite parts was, the song Matilda ' cause he went out on the catwalk and they were just, I remember there were like a ton of heart balloons and they were like blowing in the air, and we were like a little farther back from the stage. We were just kind of sitting there enjoying the music.
[00:19:34] I don't think it's that long of a song, but it kind of just like felt longer. Like the moment was like nicely, like stretched out. I also liked, I think it might have been Late Night Talking when he came into like our section by the stage and he was really like connecting with the audience, like by us. I swear I made eye contact with him. That would be biased, but yeah. That's fun.
[00:19:59] Charles: [00:20:00] Yeah, and it was all general admission and everybody was super were cool. Like there was no pushing or anything, and people were asking if you wanted to come up closer by the stage stuff. And the tickets were significantly cheaper there, I mean, yeah, granted we didn't have a seat, but still, the price for all three tickets was a little bit more than one of those Pit tickets at the United Center. So a huge price difference in tickets. But, would you give anybody who's like 12 years old or so, advice of going to their first concert? Do you have any of wisdom?
[00:20:36] Lily: Honestly, just have fun. It's an amazing experience if you're seeing your favorite artist. Really, I'd say like connect with the crowd. I know Harry, he was kinda like, I don't know, maybe like thinking about the crowd's energy, you know?
[00:20:50] Charles: Okay. 'Cause then you've since been to some other concerts other than this Harry Styles concert. Right. And another huge, general admission concert you went [00:21:00] to was, , Lollapalooza 2025 to see Olivia Rodrigo.
[00:21:04] Lily: Yeah. That was really fun because I remember, oh, Joe Keery, who's Steve from Stranger Things. He was singing, I don't know what song it is, but I think like just Back in Chicago. And we were all sitting like underneath this tree. We weren't, we didn't really like see him playing 'cause we weren't like in the crowd, but we were kind of just listening to him and he was like right before Olivia Rodrigo. So that was really cool. So once he finished, we like think, went to the bathroom and then we went to go stand in the crowd to wait for her to play.
[00:21:39] Charles: Yeah. 'cause there were so many people there, you couldn't really get close until after he was done playing. Then a lot of people left and then more people came. To see Olivia Rodrigo. So we were able to get closer. I wouldn't say closer to the stage. I mean, sort of, , we weren't too far away, but yeah, there was a lot of people there. It was [00:22:00] 115,000 people. So basically double from the Harry Styles concert in Lisbon. As far the crowd.
[00:22:06] Lily: Yeah, I remember, I was wearing, if you don't know Harry, he has like a brand or it's not like his brand, but he owns the company. It's called Pleasing. And I was wearing a like lavender Pleasing sweatshirt. And someone in the audience walked past me and she was like, I like your shirt. Yeah.
[00:22:23] Charles: Yeah, that's always cool when somebody acknowledges the shirt you're wearing right.
[00:22:26] Lily: Yeah, so it was kind of a connection to Harry, even though I was at a Olivia Rodrigo concert.
[00:22:32] Charles: Yeah, exactly. And then, Olivia Rodrigo, I've talked about this in our year end concert review that she talked about her first concert. You wanna talk about that at all?
[00:22:43] Lily: Was her first concert Weezer?
[00:22:45] Charles: Yeah. She mentioned there's a lot of young faces out in the crowd, and that might be their first concert and that she remembers her first concert.
[00:22:53] Lily: She brought them on stage to play.
[00:22:56] Charles: Yeah, she's like, in fact, they're here tonight with me, and then we're like, oh [00:23:00] my God, who, who's she talking about? And then she says, it was Weezer was her first concert. And so a few of the guys from Weezer came out, Rivers Cuomo, Brian Bell, and Scott Shriner. And , they played a couple songs with Olivia Rodrigo and her band. Her drummer was also, or is also a big Weezer fan. So she played drums with these guys and they played that song Buddy Holly and Say, it Ain't So. That was a really cool surprise. I thought it was awesome. So then after that, you saw Maddox Batson and who's, who's Maddox Batson.
[00:23:33] Lily: Um, well at the time he was 15. He is like this young country artist, kind of like a country pop, I'd say.
[00:23:41] Charles: Yeah. Did you find, you found him on YouTube, right?
[00:23:44] Lily: Yeah.
[00:23:45] Charles: Podcast that you watch on YouTube. But yeah, he was playing at this place called the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois. And he was opening for Lainey Wilson. And the ticket prices, I was watching 'em on StubHub [00:24:00] kept dropping and dropping. So we were able to get Pit tickets for Maddox Batson. Well, for you and mom. I was up in the nosebleeds.
[00:24:07] Lily: I mean, it was Lanny Wilson, but like he was playing there. I remember there was another band that played too. They were pretty good.
[00:24:14] Charles: Yeah. After him was, Muscadine Bloodline was the name of the band, but Maddox Batson, it was funny. Like you said, he is only 15 years old, and so he kept saying that throughout his entire set. Which, what did he play? Like five or six songs? You were disappointed that he didn't play some of his songs right? That you wanted to hear.
[00:24:32] Lily: I mean, he doesn't have too many songs, so.
[00:24:34] Charles: Yeah. I mean, does he only have the one album? Maybe.
[00:24:36] Lily: He has a lot of singles too.
[00:24:38] Charles: Okay. So anyway, it was fun. You stayed for the first two bands in the pit and then we took off. But you're seeing Maddox Batson again. He's headlining, right?
[00:24:49] Lily: Yeah.
[00:24:49] Charles: In Chicago at this place called the Salt Shed, which I talk about all the time, cause it's a really cool venue. And I go there a lot to see concerts. It's gonna be your first time at the [00:25:00] Salt Shed. Right? He can't say he's 15 anymore though, right? I think he just turned 16.
[00:25:04] Lily: Yeah, he turned 16 a few months ago.
[00:25:07] Charles: Yeah. So, yeah, we'll check that out. And then, you're gonna go see Harry again, right?
[00:25:11] Lily: Oh yeah. He just announced, I'd say almost a month ago, his new album. It's called Kiss All the Time, Disco Occasionally. And his tour, the Together, Together tour. And we got tickets to see him September 5th, was it?
[00:25:27] Charles: Yeah, it's over Labor Day weekend at Madison Square Garden.
[00:25:30] Lily: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Charles: So, we're all looking forward to that. Our Harry fans. Lily's a Harry Styles super fan, and, we're on that one sometime in September. Anything you'd like to say before we wrap up? Lily?
[00:25:43] Lily: No. Maybe, um, listen to the album.
[00:25:46] Charles: Yeah. Do you like the new song? Right? Aperture.
[00:25:49] Lily: Yeah. There was a leak with, another song. I haven't listened to it yet 'cause I don't wanna get spoiled, but.
[00:25:54] Charles: That guy, what's his name? The guy who leaked the song.
[00:25:57] Lily: Oh, it's a DJ. I think he's like a producer [00:26:00] or someone.
[00:26:00] Charles: Oh yeah. The second single, I guess maybe it's gonna be the second single, I don't know. Although he's releasing the whole album in about a week, and was playing it at one of his shows in London, and people recorded it on TikTok, they were outside of the venue, right? Recording it maybe.
[00:26:17] Lily: I not sure.
[00:26:18] Charles: It didn't seem like a very good recording. But, I would imagine people inside the venue must have recorded it. But anyway, so yeah, we're looking forward to Harry's new album and going to see him live at Madison Square Garden. So, thanks Lily for coming on, Seeing Them Live. I appreciate your time.
[00:26:34] Lily: You too.